anti-virus package in xpsp2?

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Postby TerraFrost » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:25 pm

microsoft's new anti-spyware tool has been reviewed by flexbeta.net here. their conclusions are as follows:

Though still in beta, Microsoft AntiSpyware was able to detect more infected files than the current leading anti-spyware applications in the market today, Ad-Aware and SpyBot S&D. AntiSpyware’s user interface is better looking than both SpyBot and Ad-Aware, not to mention much easier to use than SpyBot. Though Microsoft AntiSpyware was able to use better detection than both Ad-Aware and SpyBot, there is still the difference of cost between the three. Ad-Aware and SpyBot offer great performance for free, yet when Microsoft debuts its AntiSpyware application, it will require a subscription fee. Is Microsoft AntiSpyware really worth the subscription fee when there are currently good spyware removal applications out there that will do it for free? My answer to that question would be, if you can afford the fee, it is absolutely worth it; however, if you chose to use Microsoft AntiSpyware as your spyware removal tool, you will still need to run other tools such as Ad-Aware and SpyBot.

unfortunately, posts on slashdot.org suggest that a lot of these hits are actually false positives - something that the above test didn't account for.

anyway, if you want to try it out, yourself, the download location is here:

https://www.microsoft.com/athome/securi ... fault.mspx
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Postby TerraFrost » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:28 pm

there was some question of whether or not microsoft would charge people to use their anti-spyware package, but according to this slashdot article, they won't be.
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Postby TerraFrost » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:08 am

Information on a Microsoft branded anti-virus package can be found here:

http://www.bentuser.com/article.aspx?ID=312

About the Anti-SpyWare package - I just tried it out, myself, and I have to say... it does a better job at removing spyware than anything else I've tried. There was a particular software package that neither Norton AntiVirus 2005, AdAware, or SpyBot were able to delete. Microsoft's anti-spyware tool, however, could. This probably has something to do with the fact that Microsoft knows how to work-around XPs nuances better than anti-virus makers.

EDIT: Microsoft's anti-virus package apparently detects VNC Server as spyware. Given that Microsoft's Remote Desktop Connection does the same thing, this seems a little to be a little fishy, but ah well. (I think I also read about this on slashdot.org, but had sorta forgotten about it)
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Postby Nuxius » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:50 am

Microsoft's anti-virus package apparently detects VNC Server as spyware.
Yeah, it does. A lot of people have complained about that.
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Postby TerraFrost » Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:40 pm

Microsoft's Anti-Spyware package also apparently doesn't work to well with Starcraft. I don't know if it's, more generally, all auto-run CDs, or if its just Starcraft, but it's annoying, none-the-less.

Incidently, apparently Microsoft's Anti-Spyware package isn't the only one with problems. Norton AntiVirus (certain versions of which can detect spyware - aka extended threats) also has some false positives as elaborated here:

http://indigorose.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4718
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Postby TerraFrost » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:03 am

There's something else that kinda annoys me about Microsoft Anti-Spyware - when the schedualed scan is about to take place you have to cancel it twice before it actually cancels.

The first time you cancel it, it sorta cancels, but then a few seconds later, it pops back up, requiring you cancel it again.

Also, although I can't say definitively, I think Microsoft's Anti-Spyware tool has retroactive protection. What I mean by that is that if you disable it for a time, get infected with spyware while its disabled, and reenable it, it'd detect it.

I say this because that kinda happened to me. I deactivated it to play Starcraft, once, and didn't activate it after the game was done. A while later, I accidently did something that I was very confident would get spyware installed. I activated Anti-Spyware immediatly afterwards and it detected stuff trying to be installed / removed it. Since then, I haven't had any alerts, so... either the spyware is lurking on my system or it actually has been disabled. Retroactively.

A simple vbscript should corroberate this, but I have yet to write it...
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Postby TerraFrost » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:49 pm

TerraFrost wrote:Incidently, apparently Microsoft's Anti-Spyware package isn't the only one with problems. Norton AntiVirus (certain versions of which can detect spyware - aka extended threats) also has some false positives as elaborated here:

http://indigorose.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4718

Here's another anti-virus package that results in false positives:

http://seclists.org/lists/nmap-dev/2005 ... /0097.html

Also, here's a post describing security vulnerabilities within AV products:

http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid= ... d=14159179

Finally, Microsoft's own AV product is out:

http://www.theregister.com/2005/12/01/m ... blic_beta/
http://ideas.live.com/
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Postby TerraFrost » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:32 am

Norton AntiVirus has gotten even worse. It classifies GameSpy Arcade as spyware:

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/av ... rcade.html
http://support.gamespy.com/article.aspx ... ode=0B3A7L

Now, I don't know a whole lot about GameSpy Arcade, but based on what I do know, classifying it as spyware seems to me to be rather similar to classyting Battle.net as spyware, simply because Battle.net displays ads.
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Postby Nuxius » Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:49 am

No, it classifies it as adware, not spyware. Did you even read the link? :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adware
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Re: anti-virus package in xpsp2?

Postby TerraFrost » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:10 am

AVG Free detected a critical Windows file as a virus. Yay!:

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid ... 10/2319209
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Re: anti-virus package in xpsp2?

Postby Nuxius » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:11 am

That's because AVG sucks. :p

Avira and Avast are the best for free AV's, while Eset NOD32 is the best period (although it costs money).
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Re: anti-virus package in xpsp2?

Postby TerraFrost » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:14 am

Here's another case of an antivirus package yielding a false positive:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=184840
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