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Postby lorien1 » Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:37 pm

Do you think prostitution shoud be legalised? O_O Colin.<*>.
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Postby Evlfrost » Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:04 pm

Im not sure why you call it the oldest profession. People were surely hunters and gatherers before prostitution.
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Postby tsian » Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:39 pm

Well, there isn't any particular reason why it shouldn't be legalised.

If we have decided that people are free to do with their body as they please, legalising prostitution eliminates quite a few problems:

a) Mandatory disease screening at regular intervals
b) Pimps. Pimps are horrible, horrible people, freeeing the girls who have been forced into this job and allowing only people who willingly want to sell their services would be an amazing improvement over what we have today.
c) Taxes. Everyone like new revenue sources
d) It would, though only mildly, create secondary jobs.

Since it is not society's job to proscribe morals (except where one's beliefs infringe on anothers) I do not see why prostitution should not be legalised.

Note: As with all things of this nature, prostitution would almost certainly be highly regulated.
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Postby Nyufrost » Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:51 am

Evlfrost wrote:Im not sure why you call it the oldest profession. People were surely hunters and gatherers before prostitution.
Prostitution is generally referred to as the "oldest profession" because it is one of the first mentioned things in the bible that people did for hire ... hunting and gathering were done for personal need rather than for pay, according to such teachings.
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Postby lorien1 » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:01 pm

tsian wrote:Well, there isn't any particular reason why it shouldn't be legalised.

If we have decided that people are free to do with their body as they please, legalising prostitution eliminates quite a few problems:

a) Mandatory disease screening at regular intervals
b) Pimps. Pimps are horrible, horrible people, freeeing the girls who have been forced into this job and allowing only people who willingly want to sell their services would be an amazing improvement over what we have today.
c) Taxes. Everyone like new revenue sources
d) It would, though only mildly, create secondary jobs.

Since it is not society's job to proscribe morals (except where one's beliefs infringe on anothers) I do not see why prostitution should not be legalised.

Note: As with all things of this nature, prostitution would almost certainly be highly regulated.


Hi.I agree 100%!! get the criminals out of the buisness,regulate it properly,and it would actualy benifit people.Colin.<*>.
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Postby Kaos » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:43 pm

Since it is not society's job to proscribe morals (except where one's beliefs infringe on anothers) I do not see why prostitution should not be legalised.


eh, i guess i don't see a reason why it can't be legalized..
but i don't like it.

it's a demoralization of women (and some men O_O) who can't get a real job for some reason or the other. or perhaps they just want to get laid everyday for money...then just go into the porn business :bah
but i'm not 'infringing my beliefs' on people...o.o
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Postby tsian » Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:34 pm

t's a demoralization of women (and some men ) who can't get a real job for some reason or the other

Not really, only if you look at it as such. If people are choosing to do this and making a rather comfortable living off of it, what makes it morally wrong? How does it make them less of a person?

or perhaps they just want to get laid everyday for money...then just go into the porn business

Well, in that sense, I think the two bussinesses are basically the same. If someone chooses to do it (and people choose to buy it), what is morally wrong?

We pay athletes to hit balls. We pay movie actors to look good. What is morally reprehensible about paying people to have sex?
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Postby TerraFrost » Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:59 pm

if government didn't want to dictate morality, why would they even address moral issues? if they say something is legal, people may do it for no other reason. if they say something is illegal, people may not do it for no other reason. however, if government doesn't say anything at all, then people will make up their own minds - they won't be able to rely on what government has said, because the government wouldn't have said a thing.
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Postby tsian » Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:09 am

Umm... I'm not sure I get the point you are trying to make...
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Postby Spudgun » Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:28 am

i do, hes saying "we (society) tends to base its morals on what is and what is not legal"

if they said nothing to us then wed make our own minds up, no laws = total freedom of a society to choose what is right and wrong

but a society forms its own laws on what it likes and dislikes

you see this is why i think local government is essential, once a government controls an area above a certain size (to be worked out) it loses touch with people who live in certain parts of the area it governs, some people in that area may think its totally ok for you to carry weapons openly (as a deterent to criminals etc) while others may view it wrong to carry at all, the best way i know to deal with this variation is laws covering smaller areas

id personally like to see a system where the individual has the right to set laws for his/her own house themselves, provided what they set doesnt incroach on their neighboors

so if an individual wants to have cocaine in their house then thats their own choice, if they want to sell it and it impacts areas outside their home then thats another matter (id love to see how this could work).
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Postby lorien1 » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:42 pm

:MIB Society through Religion,Politics,and Law dictate what is moral/legal.We might not like it,but that's the way it works!! I think out of the three, Religion is the biggest stumbling block in matters like this.Colin.<*>.
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Postby tsian » Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:29 am

So, then, the question then becomes, in our society with the values we hold, is there any non-religious reason prostitution should be illegal?
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Postby TerraFrost » Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:55 am

the local newspaper once had an article about pornography and the like...

the main point for it was pretty much... "my body, my right", and the main reason against it was pretty much that those who pass themselves off as prostitutes pass everyone like them (females, in this case), as prostitutes.

the "my body, my right" argument is pretty much an extension of tsian's argument - that in allowing people (in this case women) to do what they want, they are being empowered.

to elaborate on the second argument, the argument against pornography, and the like, consider the terrorist attacks of september 11th. because one muslim hated the US enough to kill thousands of people, some people have assumed that all muslims hated the US that much, so... they committ hate crimes against them. it's called stereotyping, and there are dozens of more examples. should women be allowed to stereotype all women as prostitutes or porn stars? just because one women wants to be turned into a porn star, does that mean every women wants to be turned into a porn star? no.

prostitution, pornography, and the like are all tricky and multifaceted issues, and i, personally, believe that there is no wrong answer, save for the one that assumes there is.
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Postby Nyufrost » Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:27 am

Here is an interesting point of view ...

The Netherlands (Holland) has --for a looong time-- been well known for it's liberal "look the other way" policies on drug use, prostitution and other minor crimes such as public peeing, begging and so on.

The Dutch now, apparently, decided they were wrong all along and these things should all be cracked down on. They say prostitution is a real problem with tourists who come looking for a "legal" hooker.

THIS ARTICLE (at least at the time of this post) talks all about it.
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Postby tsian » Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:32 am

It's always easy to choose something and scapegoat it as the source of all your problems.
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