Turin and Finduilas

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Turin and Finduilas

Postby Evlfrost » Mon Jan 27, 2003 5:35 pm

Ok so Turin is my all time favorite character. What do you think would have happend had he listend to Gwindor instead of Gluarung? Would he have eventualy slain Gluarung anyway?
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Postby Rao » Mon Jan 27, 2003 9:16 pm

What do you mean listen?
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Postby Evlfrost » Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:24 pm

Listened he took gluarungs advice instead of Gwindor's
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Postby Rao » Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:29 am

Well you have to look at it this way. He took the advice of a wiser bweing. Granted it was Glaurung, the great worm, the dragon, decitful, and possessive. He took the word of a wise one.
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Postby Evlfrost » Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:20 pm

Maybe. I somehow dout that Gluarung had his best interests in mind.
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Postby Rao » Thu Jan 30, 2003 2:30 am

Hehe i was waiting for that! Well did Gwindor? Whom was a jealous man of Turin, and wanted Nienel beyond a passion.
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Postby Evlfrost » Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:49 pm

Gwindor was still Turins friend. He belived that Turin made bad choices but still wanted the best for him (and I think you got Gwindor mixed up with someone else (I forget his name)).
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Postby Rao » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:11 am

Now that i think about it i do. hold on i will check tomorrow.

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Postby Tar-Herunole » Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:53 pm

Brandir the Lame, a man, head of the People of Haleth, is the one who was in love of Nienar, and the one you are confusing.
Gwindor, brother of Gelmir, was a Noldo. He was he one who led the charge of the armies of Fingon prematurely and got to the GAtes of Angband were he was made prisoner. After scaping from Angband, he saved together with Beleg Turin, and after that brought Turin to Nargothrond. He was also a rival lover in the sense that Finduilas, who had been his "girlfriend" left him because she was in love with Turin, although Turin did not seem to love her back. Gwindor had proved his friendship by taking him to the pools of Ivrin, where he awoke from his illness and by then introducing him to Nargothrond. His wisdom, ad been proved as well when he recommended to keep Nargothrond secret and not gointo open war, and that wisdom had been already proved when he advised Turin that the only way he could escape of his ill fate was to save Finduilas. And Turin should have listen to him, as Gwindor in the time of his death was advising him so while telling him that he loved him...
Turin was a heroe indeed, and great deeds he did and great goods he brought, specailly the sweeping of so many Orcs, beasts and even Glaurung. But he was as well a prideful fool whose first big mistake was not to accept the forgiveness of Turgon, who loveth him as his own son. The number of phisical traps Morgoth set for him and he escaped, is only equal to the number of non-militar traps Morgoth set for him and his pride accepted, bringing misery to all his good friends (Orodreth, Finduilas, Beleg, Nim, Gwindor) and to his family (Nienor and even Hurin)...
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