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Postby Evlfrost » Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:56 am

I thought I read somewhere about legolas being the son of Thrandel (sp?) who is the woodelven king.
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Postby TerraFrost » Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:49 am

why would elrond care about rivendell being rebuilt when he, himself, is due to leave? also, i seem to recall the elves of the hobbit being almost xenophobic, and almost bad people, although i may be remembering things wrong, heh. anyways, if that's the case, legolas stands in stark contrast to his kindred.
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Postby Tar-Herunole » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:45 am

TerraFrost wrote:why would elrond care about rivendell being rebuilt when he, himself, is due to leave?

Don't get the question. Rivendell was not destroyed.

The green elves of Mirkwood (as the Gereen elves of Eol had been) were darker than the Noldo or the Sinda. Remember they are Moriquendi, elves of the darkness who did not seen Aman, or lived under the direct rule of Melian the Maia nad Thingol who had seen the light himself. They had love for the forests and the stars, and not so much love for the Sun that brought the men. And most of men were uncivilized and evil during the early days of the world.

But in particular, in the time of the hobbit, they have had war with Dol Guldur, so they were suspicious of anyone who came close to their Kingdom (very similar to LothLorien if you think about it) But specially weary they were against the Dwarves, sice they were wood cutters, and, what is more important, have been fiery enemies, since the death of Thingol, and the fusion of the Silmarill with Naugarim, the necklace of the Dwarves). I fyou remember there were a few wars among them and not only thingol, but also later Dior and other great Sindar were killed in Menegroth, and many dwarves were killed as well by the Green elves when they tried to go back to the mountains.
And in the hobbit, apart from Bilbo, all of the rest were dwarves!
Having said that, is more an explanation of their Xenophoby more than a negation of it.
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Postby Evlfrost » Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:13 pm

Also due to their prejudace against drawves, they also belive them to be responsable for Smaugs appearance.
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Re: Glorfindel

Postby justareader » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:08 am

I have a question that has bothered me since I reread LOTR: When Glorfindel finds Aragorn and the hobbits and learns that Frodo is injured, why doesn't he take Frodo on his horse and fly lickedy-split to Rivendel, leaving Aragorn to escort the others on foot? Wouldn't that have been better for everyone? Without Frodo and the Ring, the others would have been safer anyway, wouldn't they?
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Re: Glorfindel

Postby TerraFrost » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:38 pm

It's been a while since I've read the Lord of the Rings. iirc, Glorfindel helps escorts all of them to Rivendel instead of going there with just Frodo which he could have, presumably, done faster?

If so, it's possible that being in the company of friends was slowing the progress of the Morgul blade. ie. their presence gave him a reason not to succumb mentally, maybe.

44 Why didn't they just have an Eagle fly the Ring to Mt. Doom? (Tolkien) suggests that the Eagles didn't fly the ring to Mount Doom because, potentially, they were forbidden by the Valar from doing so. It's possible that Glorfindel was similarly bared from intervening too much.

ie. I think half the point of the whole quest to destroy the ring was to get mankind standing on its own two feet. Glorfindel could help Frodo and his companions help themselves as Gandolf did but he couldn't do their job for them as per the terms and conditions of his being brought back from Valinor after killing Gothmog at Gondolin.
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Re: Glorfindel

Postby guenhwyvar7373 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:53 pm

Glorfindel of Gondolin died fighting a Balrog...

Then he was re-embodied/reincarnated as Glorfindel of Rivendell.
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